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 Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 00:27 |
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Hi guys,
Firstly, please dont tell me to use other brands, as I bought sony for a reason.
I dont have the time to install the system yet, but I'd like to know what kinda sound to expect if anyone knows.
What I have:
2 Sony Xplod 1000w subs
2 Sony Xplod 1100w monoblocks
Sony Xplod 400w 6x9s
Sony Xplod 300w 16" mids
Starsound 1farad cap
Tnx
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Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 09:07 |
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aren't those sony subs svc 4ohm? if so they won't play very well off a monoblock at 4ohm.. you'll be better off bridging them off one mono block to lower the impedance..
what car is this going in? to be honest the way it'll sound comes down to installation.. you have a decent setup so have them installed decently (not some soundmatch) muck up..
I wouldn't bother with the cap though rather google 'big 3 upgrade' and do that, you'll have much better results..
hope this helps
duidz
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Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 13:04 |
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i would've left the 6x9's out and just had a set of splits. like was mentioned have the system setup nicely. maybe get nemesis to do it? from what i read and heard he is very good at this. keep the cap, alot of people say the cap is not needed because they don't fully understand it's purpose. do the cap and big 3. big 3 should be done with all systems 
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Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 16:54 |
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a cap isn't needed, please explain its purpose?
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Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 23:35 |
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A cap stores a charge and releases it when needed, for instance when a heavy bass note comes up that needs more power than the car can produce. My cap releases bursts of 16v to 20v at a time.
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Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 23:39 |
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Awesome thanks guys. I'll be doing big 3 definitely.
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EvanTate wrote: A cap stores a charge and releases it when needed, for instance when a heavy bass note comes up that needs more power than the car can produce. My cap releases bursts of 16v to 20v at a time. exactly, and then it gets charged again much quicker than a battery does and immediately has more charge for when the next big charge needed. so when your battery continuosly gives charge like this you eventually see other electronics failing so that your battery can supply charge to the system which demands alot more. and eventually your battery runs flat quickly because it doesn't recharge as quick as a cap does. doing this continuosly does harm to your battery and shortens it's life span. if you do research you will see some installers recommend a cap or better battery (along with the big 3) for even smaller sound systems to make sure your sound system and all other electronics run like they should.
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Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 10:23 |
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get one sub
bin the 6x9's
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Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 16:18 |
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lol i'd love to see a cap giving off 16-20v that's charging off a 13.8v system.. ok fair enough a cap keeps a charge BUT its still charging from the battery? so if the battery alone can't take the big current draw then how will a cap that's chargng off it at the very same rate help? its not needed and won't give you any audible difference.. know i'm new on here and i don't wana argue.. keep safe guys
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hated wrote: lol i'd love to see a cap giving off 16-20v that's charging off a 13.8v system.. ok fair enough a cap keeps a charge BUT its still charging from the battery? so if the battery alone can't take the big current draw then how will a cap that's chargng off it at the very same rate help? its not needed and won't give you any audible difference.. know i'm new on here and i don't wana argue.. keep safe guys
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Clint not arguing, discussin and thats what the forum is here for remember the cap doesn't just give the charge all over the show, what ever is stored when not needed stays in the cap for the system only, so once it does get used the battery is still fine. and in a very short time again it gets charged much quicker than a battery would charge. hence it always having charge. remember the battery is still powering the rest of your car while charging which makes it take more of a beating without the cap. and no the cap doesn't give of 16-20v, it still only supplies 12v. and also keep in mind your battery/charging setup is not designed for a car using a large system, its designed to power the factory fitted electronics. so at the end of the day you going to need a cap or either battery and alternator upgrade. or in my case both
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also the main thing about the capacitor is not for your charging system, but actually to make sure your amp gets the charge it needs when you put the volume up.
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Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 22:37 |
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Quote: and no the cap doesn't give of 16-20v, it still only supplies 12v. The cap then says: "16-20 volt surge". What does that mean then if it doesn't surge the system with 16-20 volts?
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EvanTate wrote: Quote: and no the cap doesn't give of 16-20v, it still only supplies 12v. The cap then says: "16-20 volt surge". What does that mean then if it doesn't surge the system with 16-20 volts? sorry i stand corrected it can hold a bit more depending on the size of cap.
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btw it is recommended to use 1 farad per 1000wrms
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Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 11:32 |
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intresting keep it going guys I just thought it was a BIG FUSE lol  _________________ Race car : 200is Turbo 200.3kw and 405nm  KILLER  . Family Car : E39 BMW 540i Individual 4.4 V8 Avus Blue 217kw and 460nm Stock Standard .  
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TAUzty wrote: intresting keep it going guys I just thought it was a BIG FUSE lol i learnt alot about sound ever since i sold my opel slow cars are educational in other departments 
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I fitted a DvC PIONEER 2000w pmpo and Starsound 2000w amp running it off 2 channels  and it seems to go BOOOM BOOOM lekker but ny guys thanks for all the info very interesting. _________________ Race car : 200is Turbo 200.3kw and 405nm KILLER . Family Car : E39 BMW 540i Individual 4.4 V8 Avus Blue 217kw and 460nm Stock Standard .
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